Let’s admit it.
We are a culture obsessed with superlatives and lists.
Nowadays, wherever you look there is another, “The Best of…” or “The Top…”
Clearly, there is a reason we love our lists and rankings.
Keeping in the spirit of celebrating readership and books, LitMinds interviewed J. Peder Zane, editor of the recently published, “The Top Ten: Writers Pick Their Favorite Books.” This isn’t the first time that J. Peder Zane has explored the reading lives of writers. As editor of “Remarkable Reads: 34 Writers and Their Adventures in Reading,” and a book critic for over a decade, Zane has spent numerous hours thinking about authors and what makes a book noteworthy. We asked him to share his insights into this matter of list-making frenzy and the allure of discovering hundreds of selected books by highly respected authors. 125 authors in all: everyone from Ha Jin, Scott Turow, and Joyce Carol Oates to Norman Mailer, Sandra Cisneros, and John Irving.
We hope you enjoy reading the LitMinds interview with J. Peder Zane and then get working on that Top Ten list of your own. That is, if you haven’t made yours already.
1. The Late Show with David Letterman has made the “Top Ten list” a popular and familiar format. Even the FBI publishes its Top Ten Most Wanted list. Do you think our society has an obsession with rankings and lists? What is it about ‘the top ten list’ that made it best suited for your project of gathering writers’ favorite works of literature?
The top ten idea made sense on various levels. First, people have always loved lists – I bet those cave paintings at Lascaux are rankings of the beasts. For good or ill, they tap into our basic desire to impose order, to name winners and losers.
It also fit the book’s dual aims, of identifying, at once, a small and large number of great books. After I received the lists from all 125 contributors, I ranked and tabulated the results — awarding 10 points for a first place pick, one point for a tenth place pick. I tallied the votes to create 16 Super Top Ten Lists including, The Top Ten Works by Living Authors, The Top Ten Works of the 20th Century, The Top Ten Mysteries and Thrillers and, the Big Kahuna, The Top Ten Works of All Time — “Anna Karenina” was first, followed by “Madame Bovary,” “War and Peace,” and “Lolita.”
But the real stars of the book are the 544 separate titles mentioned on those 125 lists. While drawing readers in with the Top Ten lists, my purpose was not to anoint a canon. The book’s message is not, here are the only ten books that count — but, here are hundreds of books that at least one distinguished writer considers among the ten greatest books ever written.
2. Please tell us more behind your motivation for writing this book and your own top ten list. When you were assembling this collection, what were some surprises? One chapter in your book describes the challenges some writers had picking just 10. What would you summarize as the major insight generated from this logistically-intensive project?
Although list making is an ancient art, it is particularly popular today because more information than ever is at our fingertips. Internet retailers like Amazon and the turbo-charged computers that turn even the smallest bookshops into mega-stores mean that almost every book ever published is now only a click away. But possibility can lead to paralysis; choice can cause confusion. When anything is possible what to do? Where to start?
People today are desperate for guidance — that’s why figures like Oprah Winfrey have become so important in publishing. They have led readers to many fine books. Still, I wanted more: More books, better books. When I asked myself whom I should turn to for advice about what to read, the answer was easy: writers. It’s hard to be a great writer without being a great reader.
Editing “The Top Ten” offered two big surprises. The first was the generosity of the contributors. Putting together a top ten list is hard work. It requires tremendous amounts of thought and reflection. It requires hardheartedness as you choose some and not others; this process can be especially hard for writers who hope that their works will not suffer such treatment. And, whenever we declare our preferences we hold ourselves up for criticism. The “Top Ten’s” 125 contributors were aware of all that and more, but submitted their lists because of an impulse stronger than all else: The desire to spread the good news about great books.
The other surprising thing was how little difference there is between “great” books and “favorite” books. If there were an objective standard of literary excellence, the contributors might have named 50 or 75 different books on their 125 lists instead of 544. Indeed, there was an average of four unique titles per list; 23 titles that earned the top spot on one writer’s list as the greatest work of fiction of all time were not mentioned by anyone else!
The lesson is that there are no right or wrong answers when it comes to great books — there are only the books that matter to you. Critics can make sound – and true arguments – about why “Moby Dick” is a better novel than “Atonement” by Ian McEwan, but that doesn’t guarantee it will be a better, more meaningful, and moving work for you.
Limiting the writers to ten picks also forced them to think hard about their choices, to trim the fat, get to the muscle, and then cut and cut some more. Many writers found that my simple request was not so simple. But in making those hard choices, they learned something about their taste and reflected on why some great books mean more to them than others.
That’s why I hope the book will inspire readers to make their own top ten lists. That exercise is not a test of literary knowledge, but an act of reflection that reveals far more about ourselves than the books we select. I hope that readers will come up with their own lists – not just jot down some favorites but also ask themselves “why these 10?”
3. It’s been just over three months since your book was released, how have you felt it has been received? Specifically, we were intrigued that your website encourages readers to submit their own top ten list. Similarly at LitMinds, we ask readers and writers to share their favorites and create a list of what books they are currently reading, thinking about reading, and have previously read. What has been your experience with the web as an interactive medium for continuing the discussion post-publication? Any particularly notable reader or writer reactions to your book that you’d like to share?
Oh, how things have changed. When I published my first book, “Remarkable Reads: 34 Writers and Their Adventures in Reading” (W.W. Norton), in 2004, the web wasn’t even an afterthought. I was aware of only a handful of smart literary websites and all of our efforts were focused on generating print reviews.
Just three years later, everything’s different. Reaching out to websites — offering them review copies, responding to their pieces — has been a major part of our marketing campaigns. There is no substitute for newspapers, which remain the best way to reach general readers. That said, the web has generated a far greater range of responses to “The Top Ten” than newspapers and magazines.
A few examples: One of the best pieces appeared on the site Chekhov’s Mistress, whose operator posted his own top ten list with an intricate explanation of the various factors behind each of his picks. Lisa Guidarini of Bluestalking Reader conducted a very smart interview with me and Scott Esposito posted a very sharp review of the book at Conversational Reading.
4. LitMinds folks will surely be interested in your day job too. You’ve been a Book Reviewer and have written a weekly column for the North Carolina newspaper: The News & Observer. Can you tell us about the everyday perks and challenges of your position? Can you describe for the LitMinds audience your take on the vibrancy of local literary scene? Any new and notable authors that we should keep an eye on?
Back when I was in college, I thought about working for a local bakery one summer. Everyone told me the same thing - don't do it. You'll stuff your face with cookies and cakes and in about a week you'll be ruined on sweets forever. I applied anyway, got the job and sure enough, I stuffed my face with cookies and cakes that first week and the next and the next and the next.
Which is to say, sometimes you just can't get too much of a good thing. That’s why I decided to become a book review editor - the book lovers’ equivalent to working in a bakery.
I'm only indulging a little hyperbole to say that every morning seems like Christmas. I come in to my office at the News & Observer and there are piles of packages waiting for me - all bearing the latest offerings from publishing houses in New York and around the country. I tear them open and dig in. True, most of them are not wish list type books, but everyday brings six or seven new works that seem more than worthy. I stack them atop the other stacks that surround my desk - if my workplace isn't completely soundproof at this point it is certainly out of sight.
Indeed, the biggest challenge of my job is the daily need to muster self-restraint. At the News & Observer, we have the space to review about five books a week, though there are probably fifty works that I would love to cover.
North Carolina’s literary scene is particularly strong and tight knit. They are also generous. I began the Top Ten by reaching out to many of them, including Fred Chappell, Clyde Edgerton, Lee Smith, Elizabeth Spencer, Louis D. Rubin Jr., Allan Gurganus, Haven Kimmel, Reynolds Price and G.D. Gearino. Their agreement to participate in the project gave me a legitimacy that made it easier to attract other writers.
5. In your myLitMind profile you mention that you frequent two independent bookstores in Raleigh-Durham where you live: Quail Ridge Books (Raleigh) and The Regulator Bookshop (Durham). We’re also big fans of the uniqueness that independent bookstores embody. Can you tell us more about your relationship to these two bookstores?
To be honest, I don’t buy many books — lucky me, they come for free. But I spend quite a bit of time on the phone with Molly, Sarah, Rene and Nancy from Quail Ridge and Tom and John at The Regulator, picking their brains about good books. They are great readers who spend their days talking with other folks who love books. While I appreciate their practical help in identifying worthy works, I’m inspired by their enthusiasm. Hearing them rave about this writer or that title reminds me that reading is, at bottom, an act of generosity, as we admire the achievements of others.
6. What’s your Top Ten List?
I prepared my list in 2005, before I reached out to the book’s contributors. I was mighty surprised to see that four of my top five picks were not mentioned on any of the 125 lists!
1. Absalom, Absalom! by William Faulkner
2. Gravity's Rainbow by Thomas Pynchon
3. Hunger by Knut Hamsun
4. The Sound of the Mountain by Yasunari Kawabata
5. Nostromo by Joseph Conrad
6. The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle by Haruki Murakami
7. The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
8. A Fan’s Notes by Frederick Exley
9. Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison
10. Henry and Clara by Thomas Mallon
As they sent their lists, many contributors noted that the list they were sending today, would probably change tomorrow. I can attest to that. Here’s my current Top Ten:
1. Absalom, Absalom! by William Faulkner
2. Gravity's Rainbow by Thomas Pynchon
3. Hunger by Knut Hamsun
4. The Sound of the Mountain by Yasunari Kawabata
5. With by Donald Harington
6. The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle by Haruki Murakami
7. The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
8. The Executioner’s Song by Norman Mailer
9. Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison
10. The Mating Season by P.G. Wodehouse
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